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I don't want to appear negative, but hell, I will. This much vaunted McCullough treatment protocol may seem like good progress, but I maintain that it is meaningless in practice.
In their words!
"No therapeutic claims can be made for this regimen because it has not been tested in large, prospective, double-blind, placebo controlled randomized trials. No such studies are planned or funded currently by federal or institutional sponsors. The main caveats are bleeding and allergic reactions. The regimen can be used in addition to antiplatelet and antithrombic agents, however, caution is advised with respect to monitoring bleeding risks."
and...
"The duration of therapy and the impact on clinical outcomes such as quality of life, symptom scores, hospitalization, and death are unknown. Thus, no therapeutic claims can be made until large prospective randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trials are completed."
But personally, I will settle for first hand testimony. Are there any practitioners or individuals who have been using this protocol for enough time to detect any results, or is it merely theoretical?
Is there any anecdotal evidence from individuals with ALL forms of long covid... who have recovered?
To gauge its efficacy we need to know...
First, is long covid uniquely caused by the spike protein or are there other variables? If there are other variables, can this protocol be effective against those other variables as well?
In the case where the spike protein can be demonstrated to be the (or at least a) cause of long covid, is this protocol likely to be effective against all forms of spike contamination, that has resulted from any or all of covid infection, from covid vaccination, and from vaccine shedding?
This is a proposal for a trial, it is not the results of a trial. And so, in the absence of proper trials, I at least want first hand testimony from people who have recovered from long covid using this protocol.
(Personal disclaimer: I have used each of these products personally, in larger doses than recommended here, and in combination with many other products, but not for the recommended duration. I am still experiencing steadily worsening long covid symptoms.)
Hi Christine - answering things backwards. I know that Dr McCullough has been using this with his patients as has Dr Paul Alexander. I'm not sure about others though. And since none of this COVID stuff would be happening for more than 3 years and since neither the government nor the pHarmaceutical cabal would have an incentive to see whether these ingredients are effective or not (AKA HCQ, IVM, Vitamin D, Zinc, etc), we will never see any long-term RCTs from them. What I think is - what are the toxicity profiles of these products? If people are reporting success from taking them (and they are) and they are safe, then it is something that can be added to the arsenal. I'm sorry you are not finding success from taking them. I'm not sure if you watched my interview with Dr Makis a couple of weeks ago? He said there has been a lot of benefit from doing water fasts of at least 3 days. Have you tried that? I would love to know if it does work. Supposedly it helps to reset the immune system and also detoxify from whatever is causing those symptoms.
I agree, we have to play around to see what works for us. What i want to see is testimonials from people like me. Commercial non-drug products use testimonials for a reason. Where there is an absence of scientific style evidence because no-one will fund it, alternative modalities have long established precedents for using testimonials, and we work out for ourselves which of those we listen to.
I look at the demographic making the testimonials. That is one of my criteria for listening to testimonials. How many are women, how many are old women, and how many of those are likely to be wishful thinking and over-rating the product? If the testimonials are all men and/or athletes, I ignore them.
I can't do water fasts, or any kind of fast, because my blood sugar skyrockets to dangerous levels when I DON'T eat carbohydrates - and that sugar in the blood seems to be coming from muscle rather than fat. Without competent medical supervision I would not want to risk trying it. When I see the Wim Hof type protocols that are effective shockingly cruel to the body, I ask myself how many women benefit from them. Their testimonials are mostly from men or athletes.
I have to confess I have an apparently irrational prejudice against McCullough. He creeps me out. I can't explain that, but it means I just don't trust him. I stay subscribed because I like John Leake's rationalism and most of their shared stack is written by Leake. And Paul Alexander is so verbally violent I stopped my subscription to him. They don't get a free pass because they have an honorific before their name. So if both of those are using that protocol, I want to see the demographic of their customers and the testimonials from those customers.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but if you want to get an insight into how desperate this situation really is, get on the long covid support groups on Facebook. They are terrifying examples of mostly very serious medical abuse.
Like everything Christine, YMMV. We are all unique and what helps one person may not help the other. But I have found it helpful myself and know of many others who have also been helped so here's hoping on balance it will be of benefit to most people who try it :-)
Having been so negative, I was taking those items long before this protocol came out, and I MAY look at the cost of taking the product you are selling compared to the cost of getting the three ingredients separately.
I get nattokinase separately, I get the Bromelian with Quercetin and I get whole powdered turmeric as I believe the studies that show whole turmeric to be more effective than curcurmin as long as it is accompanied by pepper. If your product reduces the overall cost of that lot, I may go that way as I have to reduce my costs somehow. But I do not trust pharmaceutically produced nutraceuticals and I have no expectation of "cure" from it. McCullough is a doctor, not a naturopath. If I do decide to go that way I can be fairly certain that it will be at least 12 months of barely detectable background detox as it goes to work on the total toxic build up we are dealing with, not just covid related detox. Any less commitment is pointless.
See my more detailed question above. These doctors are still working on the assumption that the cause of "post covid" illness is the spike protein. What if the spike protein is there but relatively harmless? Where are the studies that show definitively that the spike protein is responsible for long term long covid? There seem to be studies to show it is present but not to show what trouble it is causing - ie no causal link between the spike protein and long covid has been demonstrated, to my knowledge.
What if the cause of long covid is something else? Personally, in my own investigations, I currently believe (that might change) my illness to be reaction to 5G (I am unvaxxed so if I am carrying the razor blades I acquired them in some way other than via the jab). I am very afraid that all these supposedly friendly doctors are no more than decoys, using the spurious "spike protein" to keep us away from the real source of our illness - 5G, amplified by nasty stuff other than the spike in the jabs.
The most important treatment for repair and recovery is overlooked. Bovine colostrum with liposamal delivery is vitally important. With more actual clinical support and thousands of years of human use. You can learn more at the non-profit site colostrumresearch.com
Oh Meryl! This is an incredible admission by them! Thanks for sharing; I shall pass it on
I don't want to appear negative, but hell, I will. This much vaunted McCullough treatment protocol may seem like good progress, but I maintain that it is meaningless in practice.
In their words!
"No therapeutic claims can be made for this regimen because it has not been tested in large, prospective, double-blind, placebo controlled randomized trials. No such studies are planned or funded currently by federal or institutional sponsors. The main caveats are bleeding and allergic reactions. The regimen can be used in addition to antiplatelet and antithrombic agents, however, caution is advised with respect to monitoring bleeding risks."
and...
"The duration of therapy and the impact on clinical outcomes such as quality of life, symptom scores, hospitalization, and death are unknown. Thus, no therapeutic claims can be made until large prospective randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trials are completed."
But personally, I will settle for first hand testimony. Are there any practitioners or individuals who have been using this protocol for enough time to detect any results, or is it merely theoretical?
Is there any anecdotal evidence from individuals with ALL forms of long covid... who have recovered?
To gauge its efficacy we need to know...
First, is long covid uniquely caused by the spike protein or are there other variables? If there are other variables, can this protocol be effective against those other variables as well?
In the case where the spike protein can be demonstrated to be the (or at least a) cause of long covid, is this protocol likely to be effective against all forms of spike contamination, that has resulted from any or all of covid infection, from covid vaccination, and from vaccine shedding?
This is a proposal for a trial, it is not the results of a trial. And so, in the absence of proper trials, I at least want first hand testimony from people who have recovered from long covid using this protocol.
(Personal disclaimer: I have used each of these products personally, in larger doses than recommended here, and in combination with many other products, but not for the recommended duration. I am still experiencing steadily worsening long covid symptoms.)
Hi Christine - answering things backwards. I know that Dr McCullough has been using this with his patients as has Dr Paul Alexander. I'm not sure about others though. And since none of this COVID stuff would be happening for more than 3 years and since neither the government nor the pHarmaceutical cabal would have an incentive to see whether these ingredients are effective or not (AKA HCQ, IVM, Vitamin D, Zinc, etc), we will never see any long-term RCTs from them. What I think is - what are the toxicity profiles of these products? If people are reporting success from taking them (and they are) and they are safe, then it is something that can be added to the arsenal. I'm sorry you are not finding success from taking them. I'm not sure if you watched my interview with Dr Makis a couple of weeks ago? He said there has been a lot of benefit from doing water fasts of at least 3 days. Have you tried that? I would love to know if it does work. Supposedly it helps to reset the immune system and also detoxify from whatever is causing those symptoms.
I agree, we have to play around to see what works for us. What i want to see is testimonials from people like me. Commercial non-drug products use testimonials for a reason. Where there is an absence of scientific style evidence because no-one will fund it, alternative modalities have long established precedents for using testimonials, and we work out for ourselves which of those we listen to.
I look at the demographic making the testimonials. That is one of my criteria for listening to testimonials. How many are women, how many are old women, and how many of those are likely to be wishful thinking and over-rating the product? If the testimonials are all men and/or athletes, I ignore them.
I can't do water fasts, or any kind of fast, because my blood sugar skyrockets to dangerous levels when I DON'T eat carbohydrates - and that sugar in the blood seems to be coming from muscle rather than fat. Without competent medical supervision I would not want to risk trying it. When I see the Wim Hof type protocols that are effective shockingly cruel to the body, I ask myself how many women benefit from them. Their testimonials are mostly from men or athletes.
I have to confess I have an apparently irrational prejudice against McCullough. He creeps me out. I can't explain that, but it means I just don't trust him. I stay subscribed because I like John Leake's rationalism and most of their shared stack is written by Leake. And Paul Alexander is so verbally violent I stopped my subscription to him. They don't get a free pass because they have an honorific before their name. So if both of those are using that protocol, I want to see the demographic of their customers and the testimonials from those customers.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but if you want to get an insight into how desperate this situation really is, get on the long covid support groups on Facebook. They are terrifying examples of mostly very serious medical abuse.
😞....it sounded helpful and hopeful though🤔
Yes, but know that those ingredients are probably good for everyone living in this toxic society, but may not fix long covid.
Like everything Christine, YMMV. We are all unique and what helps one person may not help the other. But I have found it helpful myself and know of many others who have also been helped so here's hoping on balance it will be of benefit to most people who try it :-)
Having been so negative, I was taking those items long before this protocol came out, and I MAY look at the cost of taking the product you are selling compared to the cost of getting the three ingredients separately.
I get nattokinase separately, I get the Bromelian with Quercetin and I get whole powdered turmeric as I believe the studies that show whole turmeric to be more effective than curcurmin as long as it is accompanied by pepper. If your product reduces the overall cost of that lot, I may go that way as I have to reduce my costs somehow. But I do not trust pharmaceutically produced nutraceuticals and I have no expectation of "cure" from it. McCullough is a doctor, not a naturopath. If I do decide to go that way I can be fairly certain that it will be at least 12 months of barely detectable background detox as it goes to work on the total toxic build up we are dealing with, not just covid related detox. Any less commitment is pointless.
Does it remove the graphene razor blades?
See my more detailed question above. These doctors are still working on the assumption that the cause of "post covid" illness is the spike protein. What if the spike protein is there but relatively harmless? Where are the studies that show definitively that the spike protein is responsible for long term long covid? There seem to be studies to show it is present but not to show what trouble it is causing - ie no causal link between the spike protein and long covid has been demonstrated, to my knowledge.
What if the cause of long covid is something else? Personally, in my own investigations, I currently believe (that might change) my illness to be reaction to 5G (I am unvaxxed so if I am carrying the razor blades I acquired them in some way other than via the jab). I am very afraid that all these supposedly friendly doctors are no more than decoys, using the spurious "spike protein" to keep us away from the real source of our illness - 5G, amplified by nasty stuff other than the spike in the jabs.
Not as far as I know. You would need to contact the company though to confirm that.
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